Let The Games Begin

[travelinman]

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[travelinman]

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[LanDroid]

"You speak of the acts of men and I speak of the meaning of scripture."

Heh, that's a good one - by their fruits ye shall know them. Christianity is based on the Bible, both the Old and New Testaments - God's Word is eternal. There is a great deal of warmongering and other Evil in the Bible - I'm sure I don't need to point out any examples...

[Sean Pa]

GL, i see your point, but dont understand your logic.
Was not the oklahoma bombing carried out by an American and Waco and the Una Bomber (sp).
Indeed as you mention the UK, Our worst act of terrorism was carried out by Irish Catholics. Substancially funded by (As Roosevelt would put it) Americans.
You just cannot blanket blame a whole section of the populous or how will those Arab-Americans ever Lose the "Arab" from that title.

[travelinman]

The New Testament fulfilled the Old Testament. The teachings in the Old Testament are archaic and based on survival of the Jews, the New Testament changes duty and conquest to love and understanding. The Koran has no New Testament and is based on the same archaic message as the Old Testament. There is no Islamic savior that enables you to enter heaven through forgiveness. Islam?s path to paradise is through ?good? works which include killing Infidels and lying to achieve the objective (which is world domination)

Events such as the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem witch trials are not based in the teachings of the New Testament; they were based on man?s greed and desire for power.

You really need to learn a bit about what you speak.

[cincygreg]

LLoks like Rev. Al is contemplating a run at the Oval Office again...
Updated: 3:13 a.m. AKT Jan 9, 2007
NEW YORK - Civil rights activist Al Sharpton said Monday he is seriously considering a run for president. "I don't hear any reason not to," Sharpton, 52, said in an interview during an urban affairs conference sponsored by another civil rights leader, the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

"If we're talking about the urban agenda, can you tell me anybody else in the field who's representing that right now?" Sharpton asked. "We clearly have a reason to run, and whether we do it or not we'll see over the next couple of months."

Sharpton mounted a long-shot bid for the White House in 2004, in which his wit and fiery denunciation of President Bush often enlivened Democratic primary debates. He dropped out of the race after losing several state primaries and endorsed the eventual nominee, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry.

Despite widespread interest in the likely candidacy of another influential black Democrat, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, Sharpton said he's heard little substantive discussion of issues that might influence his decision about running.

"Right now we're hearing a lot of media razzle dazzle," Sharpton said. "I'm not hearing a lot of meat, or a lot of content. I think when the meat hits the fire, we'll find out if it's just fat or if there's some real meat there."

Sharpton said the candidate who impressed him most so far was former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who has made poverty the central issue of his campaign.

Sharpton ran for the Senate from New York in 1988, 1992 and 1994, and ran for New York City mayor in 1997.

The Field is growing larger by the day.
Pretty soon it'll be like that California Govenor's ballot from Arnie's win at the primaries!

[Beachcomber]

Well I don't base my opinions on islam as a Christian, because I'm not "Christian". I simply see what is happening in the world and base my opinion accordingly, as I see it.

And I never condoned the support or money given to the IRA by some Americans, never will. My opinions have always tended to be pro-British and in general I support peace and order in the world. Today's muslim population is all about disorder and conquest. Even in subtle ways, they want to force everyone else to conform to their beliefs. Even the ones who do not engage in violence, they are the first ones to scream and protest over every perceived slight against their beliefs. Look at the outcry and violence they raised over the Danish cartoons last year. Let the Pope make one reference to their religion they take offense to and they go on the rampage. No one is going to convince me anytime soon that any muslim is anything but a barbarian. Period. My opinion, you are as free to form yours as I am mine...

[LanDroid]

"No one is going to convince me anytime soon that any muslim is anything but a barbarian."

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[jumper69]

GL,

While I generally agree with your views, albeit no as strongly, I suspect that there are muslim's in this world that are truly non violent. While going through the police academy, we had several classes on different cultures and invited a muslim woman in to speak with us about her religion.
She was very articulate and acknowledged that there are those who have perverted her religion. She took the time to answer any question about her religion that we cared to ask and cleared up some misconceptions that I personally had.
While I do not believe that EVERY muslim is a threat, I do think that taken as a whole, they are not the threat you perceive them as. Of course, I will always watch them with both eyes open. But I do that with everyone now.

[travelinman]

Jump,

I think we have a different view of the threat. You see it as tactical; as well you should given your job. I see it as strategic. Is every Muslim walking around with a bomb under their coat? Of course not, but as a whole their lack of a negative response to the violence demonstrates their acceptance of it.

I for one am very cautious around them; I would have no problem getting off a plane if I felt uncomfortable. Is this fear justified? I believe it?s as justified as the fear black men had of all white men in Mississippi in 1964.